And BTL/TDF wern't player made? Didnt stop the huge eve comminity getting behind the risk vs isk crap to get CCP to change them

Agreed you guys did good, but you should be able to be challenged in game, otherwise boring it will become.

Tal

Well renters as far as i knew were never given high end goodies.

Whats broken about the UI?

How is ANY up comming alliance even ment to get close to challenging the tech holding large established alliances??

Ok Lord, how are you supposed to tackle a enemy with UNLIMITED ISK and funding? please educate us all

Unlimited ISK is a Iwin button, and the longer the game stays as it is the worse the situation becomes. The only hope for anyone is that large alliances implode. It shouldnt be like this

I am unsure of the exact way the NC fell so cannot get into details.

But I think its fairly safe to assume it was because of a alliance between other alliances with alot of ISK, moms and titans which took them down. Reitterating the fact, there comes a tiem when people realise, join a established alliance or move on

Im not interested in taking any space what so ever, I'm actualy comming to the end of my "eve life" i think. Getting so bored of the same stuff over and over. I am meerly interested in firstly, making the "pubbies" masses aweare of this NTEC agreement, and secondly putting it on the table that Moon goo is far more game breaking than incursions ever were.

Except Sov and the Jump mechanics.

1.So you are saying if force fields are developed in RL they will have "reinforcement timers" on them? Seriously?

2.Last time I checked the US has bases all around the world so that it can get a very small fraction of it's firepower anywhere in the world in 24 hours. That is because that small fraction of it's firepower was already bases 90% of the way there.

These strategic bases are a division of forces that is necessary for the US to have that response time. This is not in anyway present in Eve thanks to Jump Drive tardism. Thank you for further proving my point.

3.All the moons ARE almost entirely in one place which is what makes OPEC not at all like stupid tech monopoly. Also, OPEC is not "almost all oil production" either. Again, you are just making stuff up.

Goon are such liars.

0.0 is pretty much the biggest carebear place around currently.
The big alliances have no reason to fight each other and have literally zero risk within their own territory that they barely have to bother defending.

Either way, moon mining is rather imbalanced in the way the 0.0 alliances are currently working.
And the more time it takes to fix this how harder it will be to even challenge these alliances.

or NC who got their ass kicked in their own hubris?
I specifically meant the big alliances that haven't pissed of everyone (except the goons because they can do that and get away scot free) and got enough fire-power to make themselves an unattractive target.

Sorry tech moons have no current risk

CCP needs to either rollback the changes to incrusions

OR nerf the **** out of moons in general.

And how do you spose the average joe does that then?......... exactly its not possible for anyone without a huge alliance and massive funding - like a tech moon or 2 - to even consider doing so

Moon Goo offers these large alliances the ISK required to actualy gain and keep numbers. Even actualy get people pvping.

At the end of the day lets be honest, who will fit a real pvpship more then once a day, go die, get podded then reship and go back for more if they arnt being offer'd some part of that honey pot?

Goons are a group formed outside of eve via SA forums which you have to pay $10 to join.

The only way CFC or any of the large powerhouses that are currently in existance will be knocked off thier perch is by internal issues, nothing anyone outside the diplomats/alliance highbee's can perform

competition to Goon tech moon income

Are you worried your unearned wealth will be taken away?

You claim you fought hard for it, but did you really? And was that fight REALLY risky enough to justify your reward?

I say that you DID NOT earn that much wealth, and it should be removed TODAY.

About 1/4 your current tech moon income would be fair, I think.

I personally think that they should all slowly deplete and then need to be rescanned to discover what else is available to be mined.

I absolutely agree, in principle, that passive income like this has to be removed to something exploration. However, the chances for catastrophe is much higher than in most new enhancements or fixes.

Having lived through most of the history of 0.0 I can safely say that every single superpower in EVE has had the same thing said against them and all of them have fallen. Titans were nerfed because they were game breaking not because goons told CCP to do something.

Well, the disbanding could have been ruled illegal and they could have been regranted their territory. That would make even more sense than the Titan Nerf.

The logic that one person couldn't really click their heels together and cause an empire to lose control of all its' territory?

I mean really, it's logically insane that one "traitor" could magically cause a nation to suddenly "not have sov" over itself. How? He has a really, really long talk with the local police in a few thousand systems and they all decide "they no longer answer to BoB"?

What?

I don't want the blatant abuse of a poor corporation interface to replace actual fights, no.

Of course, without such hacks, Goons wouldn't be doing so well, would they?

Hard to tell with NPC corp forum alts..

Well at least you seem to disagree with the other Null sec residents. They don't seem to believe there is a difference between Null and Wormhole space besides the loss of local.

And you are right I honestly know little about tech moons other than they have one again caused a bottleneck in production.

Where is the pit of death when you need to kick someone into it?

No wait, different movie?